12V Guru – Upgrade to Lithium

Upgrading an older van to Lithium Batteries? Our 12V Guru gives you some tips into making it easier and cuts through the noise of misinformation.

12V Guru – Upgrade to Lithium

Upgrading an older van to Lithium Batteries? Our 12V Guru gives you some tips into making it easier and cuts through the noise of misinformation.

Hi David,

My name is Russell and my wife and I own a 2019 jayco silverline. The silverline is fitted with a BMPRO J35, model C. With your experience with BMPRO I am hoping you can advise me of which direction to go.

I have installed 2 lithium batteries from Itechworld before a recent trip to Western Australia. The tech from Itechworld told me that the batteries were a drop in swap and that my charging system did not need to be changed. I now know that is not true and find it false advertising. The BMPRO model C does not recognize the lithium batteries, it also has no capacity to recieve charge from the car. I have rectified this by fitting a Redarc BC/DC charger to my van. Because the lithium batteries do not show a voltage drop until they are nearly dead flat, the solar panels also did not provide charge. I have been advised that a model D will work and recognize and charge the lithium batteries? I would also like to know if the bluetooth node 102 is compatible to monitor the battery status? 

Thanking you in advance for your expertise, 

Regards,

Russell Breguet

Werribee Victoria

12V Guru Says..

Hi Russell,

Yes, unfortunately it can be a bit of a minefield trying to bring together the right system to meet your needs and there is a fair bit of misinformation out there. Hopefully we can identify some key points here to make it easier.

 

Lithium batteries require a proper charging profile to maximise their lifetime and your investment. Here’s why you should only charge a 12V lithium battery with a charger specifically designed for lithium batteries and not a standard lead-acid charger such as the BMPRO J35C.

 

Lithium and lead-acid batteries require very different charging algorithms:

  • Lead-acid batteries use a multi-stage charging process (bulk, absorption, float) and can tolerate trickle charging or being left on the charger.
  • Lithium batteries typically need a constant current / constant voltage (CC/CV) approach and do not benefit from trickle or float charging — in fact, it can damage the battery or reduce its lifespan.
  • Lithium batteries have an inbuilt Battery Management System (BMS). This is a set of electronics that monitors charge to the internal cells, cell voltages and provide a range of fault protections. A lithium-specific charger is often designed to work with the BMS, ensuring safe and efficient charging. A lead-acid charger may confuse or conflict with the BMS.

It is possible to upgrade your J35C to the capabilities of a D version through the BMPRO upgrade program.  Checkout the website for more details.  Your current unit needs to be removed and then sent away for an upgrade.  As part of this it receives additional warranty. The returned unit will then be set as Lithium ready, and you will need to utilise the settings through the screen or app to ensure you set the right battery capacity so that it can effectively monitor battery state of charge.

 

Great that you have upgraded your DC-DC capabilities as the J35 series can only provide a trickle charge through it’s DC-DC input and can’t compete with the newer vehicle smart chargers to boost voltage and charge a battery properly on the go.  Suggest that you install the BC300 shunt to ensure that all current that goes into the battery directly from the DC charger is captured in the charging algorithm. In addition, the DC charger should be providing MPPT solar charging to keep the batteries topped up.  If not, you can always wire the solar panels into the integrated BMPRO system which has its own proprietary charging algorithms.

 

In regard to the communications and brains trust of the system – the ControlNode it will need to be upgraded to the latest version of 103.  This will also enable a range of new features such as the integration of gas bottle, temperature and TPMS sensors, increased Bluetooth range and more. This device is more of a communication device and will leave the battery monitoring to either the J35 or the BC300.

 

Trust this has helped in bringing together the story for a more intricate system that allows you more power options and extended off grid camping options.  One closing piece of advice is that your system continues to evolve, to try and bring together as many parts from one ecosystem as possible as this enables a higher chance of compatibility for the entire system.  Therefore, maximising your investment and opportunities.

 

Safe travels,

 

12V Guru

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